![]() ![]() Cause you know, elephants have this great memory. I had, I wrote a browser extension back then called elephants. It actually dates back to an idea from 2011. I started building that this past January. Uh, but the, the one that, um, watched your web history, so you could search, do full tech search. Uh, you had a, uh, one that, uh, I don’t know if you ever published it as a commercial app. Um, but you also, I am aware you, you write a lot of apps that probably never see the light of day. ![]() Brett: Um, in addition to that, uh, commercially you have several other applications available. Kind of blown away by the, uh, level of detail that you, you took with the, uh, all the options and the capabilities of it. I am, uh, after that, that major, upgrade this switch to the virtual box. Brett: well, it has become quite a powerful application. But then by moving, VHX over to isolate and own the whole system itself, I can prevent that and have more control of myself. About a year and a half prior and move from using the native web server on the Mac to doing everything through a virtual machine with virtual box, because Mac had tightened down the restrictions and, uh, complaint was anytime somebody would, you know, update their OSTP from Apple, even just a small updates, it would blow away their web server settings. I’d actually kind of jumped ship from that earlier. Brett: so, uh, so virtual hoops, that’s had to make some, uh, some alterations to, uh, to accommodate that. There are no more settings to enable it, to configure it in any way. Buried in the, you know, the guts of Mac iOS, but if you download or I guess, purchase Mac iOS server from the app store, um, no, it’s completely gone now. And, uh, and recently macOS, by default disabled, their internal web server. And since then, it’s grown to encompass more and more features that are kind of, you know, 10 gentle to that type of workflow. And that was the kind of the initial core of the idea. Multiple websites running on the same Mac at the same time. And so VHX really quickly let’s use, spin up and use. And so I’d have, you know, 10 projects going on at once. But like for me back then, I was doing lots and lots of client work for web agencies. ![]() But the crux of that is, is by default, the way the web server is set up, you can only use one website at a time, which is fine for some people. So if you’re building websites, it’s a lot faster and easier to test them locally on your Mac than dealing with, you know, a web server in a data center somewhere. Uh, four, four O a wide, an audience that might not be into web development, kind of, kind of give an explanation of what that app does. Brett: Oh, well, give us a quick explanation. And so that’s where the inspiration for it came. Tyler: and that’s exactly where virtual host X came from was at the time I was a full time web dev and I needed that, you know, to do my nine to five job. Uh, kind of scenario does end up working out well for people But in the indie developer community, I think the fix fix your own problem. I think there are people out there who do manage to make apps they know will sell and aren’t necessarily things they need. And instead I do stuff for myself first and foremost, So I’ve stopped trying to make things that I think will sell. Would it be a good app or I thought I saw a market for, but I wasn’t necessarily a fan of myself have failed miserably. Tyler: they all start out almost a hundred percent solving problems that I have myself, every app that I’ve tried to build that I thought. Brett: And what kind of, what kind of Mac apps would you say you right. And that’s what I’ve been doing for the past decade. And then I just kind of, you know, split my time and made the transition to full time Mac and iOS around 2010. So I started learning how to do, you know, McCoist development around 2003. And you know, that whole time I’m building web dev, you know, I’m running on a Mac. Tyler: Yeah, I mean, I did web development, you know, from college on, through like 2008 or nine. ![]() Is that, is that kind of primarily what you do these days? Um, but yeah, you, you, you’re just, you’re a prolific developer around the time that NBL came out, you had a, an app called Nottingham that was another kind of notational velocity type of application. So you’re, uh, the reason I know you and know of you, it, well, it actually goes back to one of your apps. So if you hear me wincing, if that comes through the microphone, that’s just from sitting in a chair. And I’ve been looking forward to talking to him because he’s on about the same level of a geek frequency as me. Brett: This week’s guest is Tyler Hall, a Mac and iOS developer, and a father. Soundtrack: Hello, I’m Brett Terpstra and you’re listening to systematic. Podcast: Play in new window | Download Transcript ![]()
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